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Five Personalities 9 years 1 month ago #1091

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You are right, we are just missing (messing) with words.

So let me put it graphically.

The person, personality and results are all fixed. what is changing is only the identification. Results are fated, but choosing the personality (action) is destiny. We cannot change the fate (results) but can choose our destiny (Personality).
This understanding is viveka (discrimination).

Why change personality?. Simple based on results, what else. Your thought provoking comments please......

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Five Personalities 9 years 1 month ago #1092

@Sakthi

Very true, so the inclination towards results makes the person to switch the identification towards personalities. If the person is result oriented means the person is judging from one to another personalities and choose the optimum one which gives the person's desired results.

RESULTS are expected only when there is a NEED/DESIRE. So when a person is result oriented, it means the person is not content, the person is still EXPECTING something to feel he/she/it is complete.

Assuming the person stick to any one level and doesn't have any inclination towards the results / accepts the results as it is coming out of this personality. This can happen when the person is not result oriented (Means NO NEED/DESIRE) and doesn't judge other personalities.

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Five Personalities 9 years 1 month ago #1093

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Very correct, then that person naturally goes to level five, no desires, no expectation of results. This is what Nis-kaama-Bhakthi or no desires-love or unconditional love.

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Five Personalities 9 years 1 month ago #1094

Yes absolutely correct, but a slight correction is, the fifth level is not a separate level. The conscious level (5th level) has all the 4 levels inside them like a seed has stem, leaves, fruit etc inside them.

When we we eat a fruit we can realize the source of this fruit is a seed. (BODY LEVEL)
When we enjoy the beauty of the tree we can realize the source of the beauty is a seed. (MIND LEVEL)
When we use the shade of the tree we can realize the shade's source is the seed (INTELLIGENCE LEVEL)
Whenever we feel the breeze we can realize the breeze's source is the seed. (AWARENESS LEVEL)

All the above is from the same seed, so how can the above levels be classified which is better. AT EVERY LEVEL THE PERSON IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO REALIZE THE CONSCIOUSNESS. but a desire "I WANT TO HAVE A FRUIT, I WANT TO ENJOY THE BEAUTY, I WANT TO FEEL COOL, I WANT TO ENJOY THE BREEZE", makes the perception condense to one of the levels. This "I WANT" feeling is the main reason for condensation.

So person pointing towards the conscious level shouldn't been shown as a separate level (In your image), because every 4 level has the consciousness in them. So when someone is feeling the consciousness by focusing on the body is not the least than someone is feeling the consciousness by focusing on the mind or intelligent or awareness.

I feel the image should be modified as removing the white ares (5th level) and the light blue shade area should be named as the conscious level.

Every time when a person sees the body/mind/intelligence/awareness level the perception goes through the conscious level. WHEN SHIFTING THE FOCUS TO ANY OF THE 4 LEVELS THE PERSON IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO REALIZE THE CONSCIOUSNESS. But for a reason (DESIRE - I WANT) the person forces the perception to a level without realizing the perception is passing through the conscious level (5th level as per your terms)

But when the person stops at the conscious level (Just pointing at the light blue shade area), then the person has all the 4 levels under his/her/it's vision.

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Five Personalities 9 years 1 month ago #1099

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Thanks for bringing your valuable thoughts to the forum.
You are right (as always everyone is :lol:). Since everyone is not aware of Consciousness, we show it is a separate one, though we know it is all. Infact I have not bought the real five aspects, which all people may not immediately comprehend.Yet you can see, in all five, all five also exists at infinite levels.
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Contentment is a great virtue and accomplishment. Just Content feeling alone is not enough. But spiritual practice does not stop that that level. One has to move from others strings in the other levels. Example, mind likes and dislikes, not doing needed actions at proper time just because the mind is lazy or bored with a repetitive work. The moment we witness this attitudes is a self reflective device to be aware of the attachments at the mind level.

To have a mind to do any needed task any moment without procrastination without any justification, is a mind at Consciousness.
Like this every level has to be at Consciousness level. This answers the question of Muthu, that just being self content attitude, we cannot be at one level. As rightly he pointed, Consciousness is everything as the other four levels. But that is not an intellectual understanding, one has to be "That" (consciousness). That moment there are no levels, only "One", eternally.

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