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No Rebirth 8 years 7 months ago #1439

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@Muthu
You are right. The concept of the ONE is known to us only now and so whatever actions performed now are definitely connected to the ONE.

What about the mistakes we made when we were ignorant of the right actions.
For example, Considering birth control measure failed and so An individual aborted her child in the past with the intention that it was not the right time to have kids.

But now when the individual learns everything as ONE, showing unconditional love, Compassion, not harm any creatures etc there will be a feeling of guilt of the act performed Earlier.This could become a cause to be born again...
How can these be handled?

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No Rebirth 8 years 7 months ago #1440

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Your question is very timely.

Recently one of my friend had a natural miscarriage. She was very upset and felt very guilty that she did something wrong to induce the miscarriage and felt so sorry for the unborn child.

During my visit to her, we were discussing about this. I told her you are blessed it happened to you, she was kind of shocked to hear this from me.

I told her look it in this way. In Mahabaratha Ganga drowns 7 children (vassus) and the 8th child (Bishma) was left to live because of interference by Santhanu. So in the same way if you see, a vassu was in your womb and it's cycle was completed by the ONE without manifesting on this earth. That vassu is an enlightened soul completing it's karmic cycle.

It is hard to understand the ONE's play unless you connect it the ONE and accept what is happening around as a cosmic play, like Santhanu was confused with Ganga's action. After Santhanu realizes what was happening, he was free from guilt feeling or not able to save the other 7 children.

After listening to this conversation she felt very happy and much relieved and felt proud that the ONE has used her body to perform this action to relieve a soul out of the karmic cycle.

But if the same action of miscarriage is done by an individual intentionally just for the sake of individual's pleasure, then he/she cannot escape the guilt feeling. This guilt feeling is an effect of the action because it was performed with the presence of "I". For an individual to evolve, he/she need to convert the guilt feeling as a learning experience, then the effect on the individual comes down. The ONE is so compassionate to give the individual unlimited chance to learn and get 100% mark in the exam. But the only thing is the chances will not be of same form, but it will have same pattern. Like 1+ 2=?? or 3+0=?? or 2+1=?? or 0+3=?? or 4-1=?? etc., there are so many possibilities to get the same answer "3". Once the individual sees this pattern it is very easy to answer the question.

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No Rebirth 8 years 7 months ago #1451

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Thank you.
So bad that the individual is not aware of the act that he is performing is wrong at that particular time. This is due to ignorance.

Even now we might be performing some other actions which are wrong due to ignorance because the learning is unending.

What determines the individual to have right and complete knowledge to be utilized at the right time? Are these the Gunas of an individual that determine an individual's attainment of knowledge?

How will a rajasic or tamasic person move towards Sattvic nature if he is not give an opportunity itself to learn what is right and wrong?

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No Rebirth 8 years 7 months ago #1452

@Neelima

There is a quote in Gita where Krishna says "Both the remembrance and forgetfulness are given by me". Again it is hard to understand the cosmic play if we don't connect it to the ONE.

There is a saying "IGNORANCE IS BLISS", but this can be seen in many ways. In the awareness way, it can be seen as, performing the actions without knowing bad or good without judgement is the act of ONE. But when the individual/observer judges this act as ignorant act, then the individual will get effected by the action. If the individual doesn't judges, the effect of the action (good or bad) both goes to the ONE. This is referred to AKARMA in Gita.

The above kind of thinking can also be taken as excuse, if the message is perceived in the wrong manner. Here is what the knowledge plays a significant role to discriminate which is right and wrong perception. But this classification should be based on context. For example the same food can be good and bad based on the body condition. Here the knowledge is used to perceive it as a good or bad based on the context of usage.

For example, food which has cooling effect is used when having fever, but the same food is not used during cough for the same body. Here the knowledge of body need to be used whether the food which has cooling effect is the right to consume or not depending on the body condition.

Knowledge is like blood in the body, it has all the energy needed for the entire body, each and every organ has access to the same blood, but the individual organs takes whichever is needed to keep the organ healthy in turn keeping the body healthy. So the role of the organ determines which aspect of energy it is suppose to take to keep the relevant organ healthy.

Like the above analogy, knowledge is common for all the individuals, but based on the nature of the individual (Rajasic/Tamasic/Sattvic), he/she/it takes the particular aspect of knowledge to keep itself healthy in turn keeping the system healthy. To make it easier Karma yoga or Bakthi Yoga or Gnayana yoga are recommended based on the nature of the individual.

The individual keeps learning till he/she/it establish the connection to the ONE. The learning ends when the connection to the ONE becomes permanent.

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@Muthu

Thanks for the explanation.

"knowledge is common for all the individuals, but based on the nature of the individual (Rajasic/Tamasic/Sattvic), he/she/it takes the particular aspect of knowledge to keep itself healthy in turn keeping the system healthy"



From where does the individual get awareness to move towards these paths of knowledge? What determines whether the individual should be given an opportunity to evolve or learn?

Which factor determines a Tamasic person in this birth to be born as Sattvic in his next birth? Does he need to strive for it?

If the individual doesn't judges, the effect of the action (good or bad) both goes to the ONE.
Will the action of Judging and consuming only the foods which are good for an individual's health have effect on the individual?

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No Rebirth 8 years 7 months ago #1463

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From where does the individual get awareness to move towards these paths of knowledge?

Every individual has the seed to move towards the path of knowledge. But it is not watered or conditioned enough to sprout. The watering / conditioning process is called eagerness/willingness.

It is like a teacher trying to teach a student who doesn't have willingness to learn. But a perfect teacher keeps doing his/her teaching knowing that the seed of knowledge whichever has gone into the student's awareness and will sprout one day when the right moment comes.

What determines whether the individual should be given an opportunity to evolve or learn?
An individual is given opportunity every second, but the individual doesn't realizes they are opportunity, instead they use it for satisfying the pleasure needs.

Which factor determines a Tamasic person in this birth to be born as Sattvic in his next birth? Does he need to strive for it?
A rose doesn't need to become a lotus in the next birth to attain moksha. With the current nature the rose can get moksha by realising that there is no difference between lotus and rose, they both are flower, just the fragrance is different.

Like the above analogy all the individual with the current nature can attain moksha by gaining the knowledge and apply it by connecting it with the ONE.

Will the action of Judging and consuming only the foods which are good for an individual's health have effect on the individual?
Any action which is done with the sense of "I"ness will have effect on the individual. There is no escape on this.

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